1 00:00:24,250 --> 00:00:21,040 hi everyone welcome to podcast UFO I'm 2 00:00:26,290 --> 00:00:24,260 Martin Willis your host podcast UFO comm 3 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:26,300 is an interactive website you can pose 4 00:00:31,929 --> 00:00:29,330 questions for guests please visit us and 5 00:00:34,510 --> 00:00:31,939 also follow us on twitter and you can 6 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:34,520 listen to us on your smartphone through 7 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:36,110 stitcher there's a free app available 8 00:00:42,010 --> 00:00:39,410 right on our website I was a little bit 9 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:42,020 skeptical about today's guests and I 10 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:44,120 spoke with a number of people trying to 11 00:00:49,150 --> 00:00:47,330 decide whether to have them on or not 12 00:00:51,130 --> 00:00:49,160 it's funny most people replied to me 13 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:51,140 that everything that happens to this guy 14 00:00:55,869 --> 00:00:52,879 happens around a lot of people and a lot 15 00:00:58,030 --> 00:00:55,879 of witnesses so anyway I thought it was 16 00:01:01,299 --> 00:00:58,040 a fascinating interview speaking with 17 00:01:02,979 --> 00:01:01,309 Stan Romanek and here he is hi everyone 18 00:01:07,780 --> 00:01:02,989 I'm on the line with Stan Romanek how 19 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:07,790 you doing Stan thank you and you know I 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:10,600 I have to say right off the bat that 21 00:01:16,450 --> 00:01:14,450 when when I was first contacted about 22 00:01:17,530 --> 00:01:16,460 doing this show with you I said well you 23 00:01:19,990 --> 00:01:17,540 know there are some things that I'm a 24 00:01:21,340 --> 00:01:20,000 little skeptical about with Stan and you 25 00:01:24,789 --> 00:01:21,350 still agreed to come on I I do 26 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:24,799 appreciate that well yeah I understand 27 00:01:28,719 --> 00:01:26,960 they're things I'm I'm skeptical about 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:28,729 so that's no different than what I'm 29 00:01:31,719 --> 00:01:29,329 going through 30 00:01:34,330 --> 00:01:31,729 mm-hmm a lot of people have already 31 00:01:36,010 --> 00:01:34,340 heard you that you know may listen to 32 00:01:38,770 --> 00:01:36,020 this show we can talk about what's going 33 00:01:41,770 --> 00:01:38,780 on lately but can you just recap in 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:41,780 general like when everything started 35 00:01:47,139 --> 00:01:45,530 with you and just a short recap for 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:47,149 those who may not have heard your story 37 00:01:53,999 --> 00:01:48,130 before 38 00:01:56,499 --> 00:01:54,009 well my really everything started for me 39 00:01:58,389 --> 00:01:56,509 probably when I was a child but the main 40 00:02:02,319 --> 00:01:58,399 event that kind of kicked it off for me 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:02,329 was in 2000 I had met my wife online she 42 00:02:07,230 --> 00:02:04,130 lived in Nebraska I lived in Colorado I 43 00:02:09,999 --> 00:02:07,240 wanted to entice her to come visit me 44 00:02:13,450 --> 00:02:10,009 and I thought you know I'm gonna go 45 00:02:17,050 --> 00:02:13,460 videotape the surrounding area and I 46 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:17,060 decided to do this December 27th of 2000 47 00:02:23,470 --> 00:02:19,910 winter days and I headed up the 48 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:23,480 backroads to what is known as Red Rocks 49 00:02:28,350 --> 00:02:25,989 Amphitheatre which is a very well known 50 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:28,360 concert theatre outdoor concert theatre 51 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:31,520 and I actually never made it Derby 52 00:02:34,210 --> 00:02:32,810 off to the side of the road there were 53 00:02:36,910 --> 00:02:34,220 some cars pulled out to the side of the 54 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:36,920 road about 20 to 40 cars and they were 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:39,670 looking up above some power lines and 56 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:41,570 when I looked to see what they were 57 00:02:45,190 --> 00:02:43,730 looking at I saw an object just kind of 58 00:02:47,860 --> 00:02:45,200 floating there and the first time I saw 59 00:02:49,810 --> 00:02:47,870 this object I thinking man that it's the 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:49,820 weirdest hot-air balloon I had ever seen 61 00:02:55,060 --> 00:02:53,210 and then I realized it wasn't honourably 62 00:02:59,230 --> 00:02:55,070 at all it was actually metallic craft 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:02:59,240 now I was a very aggressive skeptic 64 00:03:02,770 --> 00:03:01,250 about this stuff I did not believe in 65 00:03:04,990 --> 00:03:02,780 UFOs I didn't believe in God and 66 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:05,000 believed in any of this stuff but you 67 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:06,650 know there it was right in front of me 68 00:03:13,540 --> 00:03:10,700 and it scared me fairly you know fairly 69 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:13,550 seriously I was I was pretty shaken up 70 00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:15,910 by it that I had the sense enough to 71 00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:18,830 remember that I had a video camera with 72 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:20,630 me and I pulled over and you know got 73 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:22,910 some footage of this day and there were 74 00:03:26,410 --> 00:03:24,380 other witnesses and that's how it all 75 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:26,420 kind of started now weren't you it 76 00:03:31,330 --> 00:03:28,970 wasn't that particular situation posted 77 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:31,340 on the news as well local news yeah the 78 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:33,770 news there were so many people that the 79 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:36,050 news eventually did get ahold of it 80 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:38,650 there were even people for the local 81 00:03:45,010 --> 00:03:43,280 local city bus department has they test 82 00:03:47,620 --> 00:03:45,020 their bus drivers up in that area and 83 00:03:52,150 --> 00:03:47,630 even some of the best drivers saw this 84 00:03:55,780 --> 00:03:52,160 object so yes yeah but now this 85 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:55,790 progressed into well it progressed it 86 00:04:02,860 --> 00:03:58,970 went from there we had whatever this 87 00:04:06,370 --> 00:04:02,870 thing was it seemed to somehow affect my 88 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:06,380 car no sound it was all it's up for some 89 00:04:12,340 --> 00:04:10,190 static electricity there's no sound we 90 00:04:14,140 --> 00:04:12,350 had an incident where we had to drive 91 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:14,150 out of state drive to Pennsylvania had 92 00:04:17,229 --> 00:04:15,680 some business in Pennsylvania and we 93 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:17,239 drove out there and drove back and on 94 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:19,130 the way back were followed by us through 95 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:21,680 two-and-a-half states with witnesses in 96 00:04:30,820 --> 00:04:26,080 the vehicle and you know I had my first 97 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:30,830 abduction experience in 2001 now if you 98 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:32,930 watch TV a lot no I always hear these 99 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:35,090 people talk about the sleep paralysis 100 00:04:40,780 --> 00:04:38,810 thing you know you are sleeping you kind 101 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:40,790 of we're half awake half asleep and you 102 00:04:45,159 --> 00:04:44,060 were you know you couldn't move and my 103 00:04:46,929 --> 00:04:45,169 first abduction 104 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:46,939 I was fully awake when it happened there 105 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:48,530 was no sleep paralysis 106 00:04:53,860 --> 00:04:50,770 I pretty much remembered everything 107 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:53,870 except the fact that because I didn't 108 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:55,759 believe I had an extremely hard time 109 00:05:01,469 --> 00:04:57,919 with it and I tried to convince myself 110 00:05:05,679 --> 00:05:01,479 it was a dream one in fact it wasn't and 111 00:05:09,580 --> 00:05:05,689 it started when there was a huge UFO I 112 00:05:11,140 --> 00:05:09,590 was manager of a retail store in a 113 00:05:13,659 --> 00:05:11,150 corner corner of a very busy 114 00:05:15,580 --> 00:05:13,669 intersection and this was during rush 115 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:15,590 hour when this happened so again there 116 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:19,490 were witnesses a UFO hovered was 117 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:22,490 hovering over my building and I was just 118 00:05:26,379 --> 00:05:24,710 about to close up for the evening and I 119 00:05:27,580 --> 00:05:26,389 had let my last customers out of a store 120 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:27,590 in the Ken Lanning but they said there's 121 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:29,990 something above your work I thought at 122 00:05:34,089 --> 00:05:32,330 first some idiot climbed on top of the 123 00:05:35,740 --> 00:05:34,099 roof and was messing around up there and 124 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:35,750 when I went out told luck I was just 125 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:38,330 scared it's perfectly round sphere about 126 00:05:43,779 --> 00:05:41,270 40 foot down it was just blinking above 127 00:05:46,689 --> 00:05:43,789 my work and there were winds there are 128 00:05:48,189 --> 00:05:46,699 very strong winds that day coming from 129 00:05:49,899 --> 00:05:48,199 the West coming from the mountains about 130 00:05:52,719 --> 00:05:49,909 40 mile an hour wind gusts and this 131 00:05:56,010 --> 00:05:52,729 thing was just stationary eventually it 132 00:05:59,920 --> 00:05:56,020 just kind of fluttered away and I 133 00:06:01,570 --> 00:05:59,930 quickly locked up the store and I was 134 00:06:03,429 --> 00:06:01,580 pretty nervous by this time tonight 135 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:03,439 already seen one UFO and I'm wondering 136 00:06:09,490 --> 00:06:06,770 why there was another one and so I drove 137 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:09,500 home and on my way home I saw this 138 00:06:13,899 --> 00:06:11,330 blinking off in the distance and I'm 139 00:06:16,450 --> 00:06:13,909 thinking what in the world this objects 140 00:06:19,089 --> 00:06:16,460 coming back towards me and I got pretty 141 00:06:20,709 --> 00:06:19,099 scared again and I I realized that it 142 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:20,719 wasn't coming back towards me I was 143 00:06:25,959 --> 00:06:22,490 coming towards it it was hovering above 144 00:06:28,659 --> 00:06:25,969 my accountant apartment complex and I 145 00:06:30,309 --> 00:06:28,669 ran upstairs got my my sister my friend 146 00:06:32,709 --> 00:06:30,319 were waiting for me to go out to dinner 147 00:06:34,719 --> 00:06:32,719 that evening and I ran upstairs got my 148 00:06:37,929 --> 00:06:34,729 camcorder got Ben and we all watch this 149 00:06:40,689 --> 00:06:37,939 object for a while and then that's kind 150 00:06:44,110 --> 00:06:40,699 of the beginning of the abduction thing 151 00:06:48,490 --> 00:06:44,120 and that's you claim that's happened 152 00:06:50,829 --> 00:06:48,500 several times it has your first thing 153 00:06:53,019 --> 00:06:50,839 has happened and see what people need to 154 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:53,029 understand there's a lot of skeptic ups 155 00:06:57,140 --> 00:06:56,050 out there a lot of skeptics out there I 156 00:06:59,600 --> 00:06:57,150 be 157 00:07:01,760 --> 00:06:59,610 one of them people need to understand 158 00:07:04,010 --> 00:07:01,770 though that what makes this case so 159 00:07:07,070 --> 00:07:04,020 different is most the stuff that happens 160 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:07,080 only happens with a lot of people around 161 00:07:14,260 --> 00:07:10,080 good example you know I had producer for 162 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:14,270 Good Morning America here and a producer 163 00:07:20,210 --> 00:07:18,990 from 2020 primetime and they saw stuff 164 00:07:25,340 --> 00:07:20,220 and they were hearing a freak them out 165 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:25,350 so bad they actually went back to ABC 166 00:07:29,540 --> 00:07:27,390 headquarters and said look we got to do 167 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:29,550 this story right and the producer for 168 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:34,050 ABC was fired almost instantly and the 169 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:36,030 person from Good Morning America had to 170 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:38,880 she quit her job and that's this is all 171 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:43,200 on record so you know and and it 172 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:45,810 continues like that this continues even 173 00:07:49,310 --> 00:07:47,250 though there's stripped it's about my 174 00:07:54,290 --> 00:07:49,320 story out there you know it's the 175 00:07:56,210 --> 00:07:54,300 volumes of you know witnesses the 176 00:07:59,330 --> 00:07:56,220 volumes of evidence that make the 177 00:08:01,490 --> 00:07:59,340 difference I guess now why why you have 178 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:01,500 you ever you ever been asked that 179 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:03,330 question you know that's the 180 00:08:07,910 --> 00:08:05,490 million-dollar question I wished I had 181 00:08:10,310 --> 00:08:07,920 an answer you know there and it's not 182 00:08:12,380 --> 00:08:10,320 just me there are thousands if not 183 00:08:18,140 --> 00:08:12,390 millions of people you know and this 184 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:18,150 started you can't just go to the police 185 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:20,250 department I try that you can't just go 186 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:22,290 to a shrink because you know I thought I 187 00:08:27,530 --> 00:08:25,710 was going crazy so and you know I I went 188 00:08:30,340 --> 00:08:27,540 to a psychologist I said what test me 189 00:08:33,410 --> 00:08:30,350 and I think I'm going nuts and you know 190 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:33,420 they tested that I wasn't nuts and but 191 00:08:42,890 --> 00:08:35,190 she had a hard time believing my story 192 00:08:44,330 --> 00:08:42,900 so you know we talked to we my first 193 00:08:46,460 --> 00:08:44,340 conference about warming back up a 194 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:46,470 little bit here the first conference I 195 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:48,930 did when this happened was something 196 00:08:54,530 --> 00:08:52,250 called the UFO Congress conference and I 197 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:54,540 really didn't do it the researchers 198 00:08:58,130 --> 00:08:56,370 involved in my case decided to talk 199 00:08:59,150 --> 00:08:58,140 about what they had experienced while 200 00:09:00,800 --> 00:08:59,160 being with me and what they were 201 00:09:02,690 --> 00:09:00,810 catching on you know surveillance and 202 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:02,700 stuff like that while we were there we 203 00:09:06,850 --> 00:09:04,800 had a three-star general come up to us 204 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:06,860 crying because he started having 205 00:09:10,230 --> 00:09:09,690 experiences and he said he went to the 206 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:10,240 Pentagon 207 00:09:15,090 --> 00:09:12,640 but they kept shutting him down and he 208 00:09:16,650 --> 00:09:15,100 had nowhere to go so that kind of 209 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:16,660 brought it home for me that this is 210 00:09:21,329 --> 00:09:18,850 really happening because I was not the 211 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:21,339 only one there were people from you know 212 00:09:28,019 --> 00:09:24,190 they were anywhere from being doctors to 213 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:28,029 generals all kinds of people from 214 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:33,310 different you know genres of life coming 215 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:35,440 coming forward that this is really 216 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:36,130 happening 217 00:09:40,290 --> 00:09:38,680 the trouble is it scares people so much 218 00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:40,300 that they don't want to admit that this 219 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:41,680 is happening and that's why there's so 220 00:09:46,050 --> 00:09:44,170 many skeptics I think yeah you know it's 221 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:46,060 it's funny I've always you know I've 222 00:09:52,590 --> 00:09:50,410 been very open to you know UFO sightings 223 00:09:54,180 --> 00:09:52,600 and even landings voter comes to the 224 00:09:57,090 --> 00:09:54,190 abduction things I've always been really 225 00:10:00,630 --> 00:09:57,100 careful about stepping into that because 226 00:10:02,910 --> 00:10:00,640 it does just seem so far out there you 227 00:10:05,010 --> 00:10:02,920 know it does it doesn't you know I have 228 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:05,020 people tell me you know they come 229 00:10:09,420 --> 00:10:06,970 thousands of light-years why did they 230 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:09,430 come see you and especially you know 231 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:11,170 there was a video that I captured of 232 00:10:15,780 --> 00:10:13,720 what we thought was a peeping tom and 233 00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:15,790 you know I get a lot of flack for that 234 00:10:19,530 --> 00:10:17,620 because I released that to the public 235 00:10:20,970 --> 00:10:19,540 and they said well they come thousands 236 00:10:22,260 --> 00:10:20,980 of light-years why are they looking in 237 00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:22,270 your window it's like how the heck 238 00:10:26,069 --> 00:10:24,399 should I know I don't know you know I 239 00:10:26,340 --> 00:10:26,079 don't have the answers but it happens a 240 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:26,350 lot 241 00:10:32,069 --> 00:10:29,260 not just to me and if anybody does any 242 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:32,079 research you know they'll find out that 243 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:35,770 it really does happen a lot if your true 244 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:37,510 experience or you have all kinds of 245 00:10:43,199 --> 00:10:41,110 weird things like that show up you know 246 00:10:45,329 --> 00:10:43,209 throughout your experiences I would have 247 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:45,339 to say of all all the things that I have 248 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:48,730 known about you and watched videos and 249 00:10:56,190 --> 00:10:53,050 things I never really thought that video 250 00:10:58,350 --> 00:10:56,200 was right it just does not to me it 251 00:11:01,639 --> 00:10:58,360 seems like a fake video it seems like a 252 00:11:04,590 --> 00:11:01,649 puppet it doesn't seem real to me and 253 00:11:07,230 --> 00:11:04,600 people a lot of people say that and it 254 00:11:10,769 --> 00:11:07,240 could very well be but here's the thing 255 00:11:12,660 --> 00:11:10,779 that video I wasn't even going to 256 00:11:16,590 --> 00:11:12,670 release that video to be honest with you 257 00:11:18,660 --> 00:11:16,600 because I had issues with it now that 258 00:11:20,579 --> 00:11:18,670 being said there was a person by the 259 00:11:22,950 --> 00:11:20,589 name of Jeff peckmon that came doing 260 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:22,960 write one of my talks and he 261 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:25,900 very first he didn't believe any of this 262 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:27,850 stuff because he said well you know 263 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:29,830 because he was heavily into politics and 264 00:11:33,390 --> 00:11:31,990 he said well if this is real the 265 00:11:35,490 --> 00:11:33,400 government would let people know that 266 00:11:37,710 --> 00:11:35,500 this was real and we had to you know 267 00:11:39,030 --> 00:11:37,720 enlighten him how about that fact the 268 00:11:41,610 --> 00:11:39,040 kind of governments actually turn to 269 00:11:43,740 --> 00:11:41,620 hide this stuff and he got so upset that 270 00:11:45,690 --> 00:11:43,750 he started he wanted to start something 271 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:45,700 called the Denver et initiative he's 272 00:11:50,130 --> 00:11:48,460 decided that you know the government's 273 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:50,140 not gonna let anybody know maybe to do 274 00:11:53,940 --> 00:11:52,810 it from the grassroots up well they came 275 00:11:55,980 --> 00:11:53,950 to me and they said give us some 276 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:55,990 evidence to use they said okay you know 277 00:11:59,670 --> 00:11:57,610 you can show up but I don't want this 278 00:12:01,490 --> 00:11:59,680 this the video to be released cuz I'm a 279 00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:01,500 little unsure about it 280 00:12:07,470 --> 00:12:04,900 so they used this alien in the window 281 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:07,480 video that we're talking about and so 282 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:09,790 but somebody actually broke into my 283 00:12:15,390 --> 00:12:12,850 house stole the file with that video 284 00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:15,400 into it that would that video in it and 285 00:12:20,250 --> 00:12:17,350 it was released all over the internet 286 00:12:21,780 --> 00:12:20,260 and just despite the fact that we tried 287 00:12:23,790 --> 00:12:21,790 to fight it and closed it down right 288 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:23,800 away it just wouldn't happen so we 289 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:27,310 released it but people need to know the 290 00:12:31,950 --> 00:12:29,440 full story about that video you know 291 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:31,960 when I was on the Larry King Live show 292 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:33,910 they had some debunkers and they need to 293 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:35,410 know the story about that too 294 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:37,360 this was a local group that wanted to 295 00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:39,370 investigate my story and we said no 296 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:40,630 because there they had the bad 297 00:12:44,940 --> 00:12:42,850 reputation so they were hell-bent on 298 00:12:46,370 --> 00:12:44,950 trying to say that everything I did was 299 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:46,380 ridiculous 300 00:12:54,330 --> 00:12:50,770 but that video started when I lived in 301 00:12:56,550 --> 00:12:54,340 Nebraska I eventually got married with 302 00:12:58,710 --> 00:12:56,560 the woman I met online she's not my wife 303 00:13:00,750 --> 00:12:58,720 and went to Nebraska to be with her 304 00:13:02,010 --> 00:13:00,760 because she has kids from a previous 305 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:02,020 marriage that she could bring to 306 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:07,030 Colorado well she has two to twenty 307 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:08,830 stepdaughters at the time they were 308 00:13:17,730 --> 00:13:13,110 young teenagers very very pretty 309 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:17,740 stepdaughters and I was watching TV got 310 00:13:21,630 --> 00:13:20,140 up to get a glass of water and you know 311 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:21,640 the shade was open it was late at night 312 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:23,950 and I see a head pop down it's like what 313 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:25,570 in the world the first thing I thought 314 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:27,130 of was oh my god we've got a peeping tom 315 00:13:34,830 --> 00:13:30,130 trying to senior stepdaughters this went 316 00:13:35,870 --> 00:13:34,840 on literally for about Fugees three four 317 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:35,880 months 318 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:38,639 and I called the police we got ahold of 319 00:13:44,180 --> 00:13:41,250 all the neighbors it got so bad because 320 00:13:46,370 --> 00:13:44,190 we kept seeing this person without 321 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:46,380 looking in our window it got so bad that 322 00:13:51,889 --> 00:13:50,310 we left him traps and stuff underneath 323 00:13:53,809 --> 00:13:51,899 the windows like sticks so if we heard 324 00:13:55,220 --> 00:13:53,819 him you know step them on the sticks I 325 00:13:56,629 --> 00:13:55,230 had a bat bite that going I'd run out 326 00:13:59,150 --> 00:13:56,639 and clock them on the head and call the 327 00:14:00,800 --> 00:13:59,160 police and this is all this is all 328 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:00,810 documented I've got all the you know 329 00:14:05,090 --> 00:14:02,360 police records and everything for this 330 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:05,100 well one of the researchers involved in 331 00:14:10,819 --> 00:14:08,250 my case you know said look you've got a 332 00:14:14,749 --> 00:14:10,829 video camera next time you see something 333 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:14,759 or suspect something you know stop your 334 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:16,649 video camera and point it toward that we 335 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:20,160 know and that's exactly what I did and I 336 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:22,649 was set it up and pointed it toward the 337 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:25,050 window and I was kind of sitting in the 338 00:14:29,389 --> 00:14:27,630 on the edge of a bathtub in the bathroom 339 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:29,399 down the hallway because at a fairly 340 00:14:34,220 --> 00:14:31,850 decent view of that particular window 341 00:14:35,689 --> 00:14:34,230 and I was reading a magazine I really 342 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:35,699 wanted to catch this guy I set up the 343 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:37,290 camera and I walked away pretended I was 344 00:14:40,819 --> 00:14:39,060 going to bed and I was you know I just 345 00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:40,829 really wanted to catch this guy and I 346 00:14:45,740 --> 00:14:42,870 kept peeking out well there are two 347 00:14:47,749 --> 00:14:45,750 bright flashes of light and after the 348 00:14:49,879 --> 00:14:47,759 second flash of light I looked in his 349 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:49,889 head top down and it's like I got him I 350 00:14:52,670 --> 00:14:50,310 got him 351 00:14:54,860 --> 00:14:52,680 trouble was when I went to the window I 352 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:54,870 found what I thought was a child running 353 00:14:59,059 --> 00:14:56,730 toward the backyard and when he clipped 354 00:15:00,259 --> 00:14:59,069 the bush he stopped and looked back at 355 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:00,269 me and I gotta tell you his eyes were 356 00:15:04,730 --> 00:15:02,670 not normal and it scared me to the point 357 00:15:08,389 --> 00:15:04,740 where you know you can watch the video I 358 00:15:11,449 --> 00:15:08,399 jump in on away that being said that the 359 00:15:13,819 --> 00:15:11,459 bunkers on the Larry King Live show said 360 00:15:18,170 --> 00:15:13,829 well that was all done with animation on 361 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:18,180 your computer well it's been proven that 362 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:20,730 and all of that wooden screen none of it 363 00:15:25,189 --> 00:15:23,250 if it was animation there be coding on 364 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:25,199 the tape that you know looking they 365 00:15:30,980 --> 00:15:27,360 speculated and it's not we've had this 366 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:30,990 video analyzed over and over again now 367 00:15:34,429 --> 00:15:32,550 if you see the original video you see 368 00:15:37,069 --> 00:15:34,439 the face move you see the eyes blink you 369 00:15:39,079 --> 00:15:37,079 see all kinds of stuff who would do that 370 00:15:40,910 --> 00:15:39,089 who would have that kind of mountain 371 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:40,920 money to make a puppet like that and I 372 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:44,160 saw this thing run away but that doesn't 373 00:15:48,290 --> 00:15:46,170 mean that couldn't be a puppet it 374 00:15:49,340 --> 00:15:48,300 doesn't mean that and that's why I 375 00:15:51,410 --> 00:15:49,350 didn't want to release 376 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:51,420 video but what people need to understand 377 00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:53,310 that's nothing compared to what I have 378 00:15:56,990 --> 00:15:55,440 as far as I've been insisting and it's 379 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:57,000 going to be released here pretty soon we 380 00:15:59,480 --> 00:15:57,600 hope 381 00:16:02,930 --> 00:15:59,490 well you know I would I would consider 382 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:02,940 that if that if that video was proven 383 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:04,710 authentic that that would be the most 384 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:06,930 important video ever shown in the world 385 00:16:09,530 --> 00:16:08,880 that's that's how I feel about something 386 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:09,540 like that 387 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:12,120 well it has been proven authentic but 388 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:14,370 people can you know let's face it you 389 00:16:17,570 --> 00:16:15,930 know I both know there are going to be 390 00:16:20,210 --> 00:16:17,580 people that are skeptics no matter what 391 00:16:21,860 --> 00:16:20,220 I could you know bring them in et and 392 00:16:24,980 --> 00:16:21,870 they'll say it's a kid in the suit you 393 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:24,990 know in a costume because people are 394 00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:28,350 afraid and that video again is nothing 395 00:16:32,060 --> 00:16:30,720 compared to what I have really is 396 00:16:34,010 --> 00:16:32,070 nothing compared to what I have and it 397 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:34,020 was you know it was it had been 398 00:16:40,370 --> 00:16:36,510 scrutinized by all these professionals I 399 00:16:44,270 --> 00:16:40,380 mean one of the guys that made that he 400 00:16:46,460 --> 00:16:44,280 helped make designed software the Final 401 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:46,470 Cut Pro he's one of the designers to 402 00:16:52,010 --> 00:16:49,410 Final Cut Pro scrutinize the crap out of 403 00:16:55,130 --> 00:16:52,020 that video and said look this is real 404 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:55,140 this is in camera there is no special 405 00:16:59,360 --> 00:16:56,880 effects what you're seeing is what 406 00:17:02,450 --> 00:16:59,370 you're seeing because it was on I guess 407 00:17:06,170 --> 00:17:02,460 on TV film it was on a DV camera that I 408 00:17:09,230 --> 00:17:06,180 videotape this there's a way to tell if 409 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:09,240 it's been altered in any way and it 410 00:17:14,780 --> 00:17:12,210 improved that it hasn't so it's in 411 00:17:19,610 --> 00:17:14,790 camera can I hire percent prove it's not 412 00:17:20,750 --> 00:17:19,620 a you know a costume or a mask no but it 413 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:20,760 doesn't make sense that it would be 414 00:17:25,220 --> 00:17:22,530 because that means somebody would have 415 00:17:27,770 --> 00:17:25,230 to spend thousands of dollars on this 416 00:17:30,290 --> 00:17:27,780 mask and the reason I say that is 417 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:30,300 because not only do can you see the 418 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:32,640 facial features can you see a blink you 419 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:35,730 see it's squint but if you look closely 420 00:17:41,330 --> 00:17:39,150 at the video damn to read actually rift 421 00:17:44,380 --> 00:17:41,340 infrared light that's on the camera 422 00:17:48,410 --> 00:17:44,390 actually reflects off its retinas and 423 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:48,420 that's I guess pretty hard to suppose 424 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:50,160 you can but I don't know how to do it 425 00:17:56,060 --> 00:17:53,520 well you know I would think that you 426 00:17:57,770 --> 00:17:56,070 know myself my first skeptical thought 427 00:17:59,480 --> 00:17:57,780 about something like that well would 428 00:18:01,910 --> 00:17:59,490 there be thousands and thousands of 429 00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:01,920 dollars that could be made from a video 430 00:18:05,890 --> 00:18:03,230 like this but yes 431 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:05,900 that that you didn't have you weren't 432 00:18:10,659 --> 00:18:07,520 involved in the release of this is that 433 00:18:12,669 --> 00:18:10,669 what you're saying no no I it was stolen 434 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:12,679 and I've got the proof of that we called 435 00:18:16,270 --> 00:18:14,330 the police and everything it was 436 00:18:18,010 --> 00:18:16,280 released we thought us wanting it to be 437 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:18,020 released and that's another thing people 438 00:18:22,270 --> 00:18:19,970 always say well you're doing this to 439 00:18:25,390 --> 00:18:22,280 make money nobody absolutely nobody 440 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:25,400 makes money in this field nobody you 441 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:27,049 know I'm an international best-selling 442 00:18:31,870 --> 00:18:29,510 author and I almost have lost my house 443 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:31,880 twice now you know you're the second 444 00:18:36,610 --> 00:18:34,130 you're the second person in this field 445 00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:36,620 that has told me that so it's not 446 00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:39,440 because I think you know I you know to 447 00:18:44,669 --> 00:18:41,960 be fair to you and fair to other people 448 00:18:47,950 --> 00:18:44,679 that maybe a little bit on the fringe 449 00:18:49,810 --> 00:18:47,960 there there is a misconception that a 450 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:49,820 lot of people would make a lot of money 451 00:18:57,010 --> 00:18:54,290 doing what you do and and you don't 452 00:19:01,299 --> 00:18:57,020 that's what I keep hearing you don't and 453 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:01,309 that's the thing and you know and you 454 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:03,290 guys think about it this way too people 455 00:19:07,539 --> 00:19:05,210 will say in the skeptics will say that 456 00:19:09,610 --> 00:19:07,549 I've said this well people are doing 457 00:19:11,049 --> 00:19:09,620 this just to get attention who in their 458 00:19:13,060 --> 00:19:11,059 right mind would want this kind of 459 00:19:14,740 --> 00:19:13,070 attention I've got a bullet hole in my 460 00:19:16,060 --> 00:19:14,750 windshield I haven't I don't have the 461 00:19:18,430 --> 00:19:16,070 money to fix my windshield I've been 462 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,440 shot that place I've been beat up I've 463 00:19:24,780 --> 00:19:20,000 been told to keep my mouth shut 464 00:19:27,970 --> 00:19:24,790 I found surveillance surveillance stuff 465 00:19:29,980 --> 00:19:27,980 equipment in my house you know our 466 00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:29,990 phones been tapped this is all really 467 00:19:34,299 --> 00:19:32,750 happening who would want this who'd want 468 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:34,309 this kind of attention you'd have to be 469 00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:35,510 out of your mind 470 00:19:40,990 --> 00:19:38,720 now tell me about the situation where 471 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:41,000 you were beat up how did that all come 472 00:19:45,340 --> 00:19:41,510 about 473 00:19:47,919 --> 00:19:45,350 eventually I conned my wife into moving 474 00:19:50,350 --> 00:19:47,929 back to Colorado Nebraska 475 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:50,360 the farmlands are pretty the people seem 476 00:19:56,140 --> 00:19:54,110 to be nice the weather scared the living 477 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:56,150 bejesus out of me I got to tell you them 478 00:20:01,900 --> 00:19:59,200 you know when you see a cantaloupe size 479 00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:01,910 hail it kind of freaks you out when you 480 00:20:06,190 --> 00:20:04,190 have you know mile wide tornadoes that 481 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:06,200 kind of go through your backyard all the 482 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:09,530 time it really doesn't have that so I 483 00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:11,570 mean they have small pinions but nothing 484 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:13,600 like that so eventually we moved 485 00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:18,910 dr. Colorado and I was a cycling in was 486 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:20,289 it 88 I was going to be an Olympic 487 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:24,610 cyclist in 91 my teammates and my coach 488 00:20:30,210 --> 00:20:26,530 died in the plane crash so kind of 489 00:20:33,090 --> 00:20:30,220 stopped my Olympic cycling career and so 490 00:20:35,279 --> 00:20:33,100 but I really liked Colorado Springs and 491 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:35,289 Cora Springs Colorado because that's 492 00:20:39,299 --> 00:20:36,970 where the Olympic Training Center was 493 00:20:41,730 --> 00:20:39,309 and it's just beautiful absolutely 494 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:41,740 beautiful there so eventually you know 495 00:20:46,409 --> 00:20:43,210 we moved out in Nebraska moved to 496 00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:46,419 Colorado Springs trouble is not only was 497 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,159 there a big training center there but I 498 00:20:53,010 --> 00:20:50,559 found out there about five top secret 499 00:20:54,810 --> 00:20:53,020 military bases in that area NORAD being 500 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:54,820 one of them Shriver being another and 501 00:21:05,130 --> 00:20:57,570 then you had the Air Force Academy also 502 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:05,140 but so I was working fairly close to our 503 00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:07,030 lifts and I rode my bike all the time 504 00:21:14,010 --> 00:21:09,400 just because I want to keep in shape and 505 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:14,020 I was on the sidewalk at a stoplight and 506 00:21:19,260 --> 00:21:16,480 as I was sitting there I heard some 507 00:21:21,090 --> 00:21:19,270 people yelling couple cars back from a 508 00:21:23,399 --> 00:21:21,100 blackened knock - Lee and they were 509 00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:23,409 yelling at me and it's like how great 510 00:21:28,590 --> 00:21:25,390 you know it's a bunch of drunk military 511 00:21:31,710 --> 00:21:28,600 guys so I ignore them and I just kind of 512 00:21:33,630 --> 00:21:31,720 pushed through and drove up on an 513 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:33,640 embankment and into the parking lot of 514 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:36,130 where I worked and kind of rode my bike 515 00:21:39,630 --> 00:21:38,289 behind them behind my place of 516 00:21:40,490 --> 00:21:39,640 employment I was going to lock up my 517 00:21:43,529 --> 00:21:40,500 bike 518 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:43,539 somehow this black is should be beaten 519 00:21:50,010 --> 00:21:47,049 too you know behind the building and 520 00:21:51,659 --> 00:21:50,020 they cut me off in the guy jumped out of 521 00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,669 the passenger seat and said you need to 522 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:53,919 keep your mouth shut unless I tell them 523 00:21:57,140 --> 00:21:55,840 I said I didn't say anything to you I 524 00:21:59,490 --> 00:21:57,150 don't even know you 525 00:22:03,630 --> 00:21:59,500 well these guys were very nicely dressed 526 00:22:05,159 --> 00:22:03,640 crew cuts dead you know pleats you know 527 00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:05,169 they're their pants were nicely ironed 528 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:07,750 and pleated and you know there are 529 00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:10,510 typical military black ops kind of guys 530 00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:12,280 I mean that's how they look to me and I 531 00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:14,289 grew up in the military so you know you 532 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:16,150 kind of have a feel for this thing just 533 00:22:22,260 --> 00:22:17,410 kind of stuff 534 00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:22,270 so we kind of banter back and forth and 535 00:22:25,980 --> 00:22:24,220 then he jumped me this guy literally 536 00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:25,990 jumped me and started trying to beat me 537 00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:28,420 up well there were four of them 538 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:33,640 I had a cable lock a very secure lock on 539 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:36,910 my bicycle seat and around it and I just 540 00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:38,970 going to clock this guy while the 541 00:22:43,290 --> 00:22:41,500 passenger the guy in the backseat of the 542 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:43,300 passenger side of the vehicle came out 543 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:45,700 and tried this kind of food karate move 544 00:22:49,890 --> 00:22:47,650 and I just clocked the chain and knocked 545 00:22:54,330 --> 00:22:49,900 him to the ground now this was happening 546 00:22:56,820 --> 00:22:54,340 as people are driving by and then I 547 00:22:58,740 --> 00:22:56,830 heard them start talking about the UFO 548 00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:58,750 stuff and I heard you know them talking 549 00:23:03,570 --> 00:23:01,360 to each other about you know information 550 00:23:05,820 --> 00:23:03,580 that there's no way they should have had 551 00:23:07,410 --> 00:23:05,830 I realized that this must be some kind 552 00:23:11,310 --> 00:23:07,420 of military government thing or 553 00:23:14,550 --> 00:23:11,320 something and as I was wrestling around 554 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,560 with this second guy I felt like a 555 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:16,960 tingling sensation on my lower back and 556 00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:21,520 I hit the dirt and the major involved 557 00:23:26,370 --> 00:23:24,550 because I yeah I was tased and I knocked 558 00:23:28,650 --> 00:23:26,380 out the one guy with the chain and then 559 00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:28,660 they tased me and grabbed their friend 560 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:29,950 and stuck me in the car and drove off 561 00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:31,420 and there were people that were chasing 562 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:34,030 these guys and they went onto the base I 563 00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:35,770 forgot what base it was but the one on 564 00:23:39,870 --> 00:23:38,200 the debate I come from anymore and the 565 00:23:41,370 --> 00:23:39,880 priest came right away because people 566 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:41,380 call the police when this happened I've 567 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:43,630 got the police reports and I ended up 568 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:45,450 with the broken wrist and a broken nose 569 00:23:51,450 --> 00:23:48,310 and then since then I've been shot at 570 00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:51,460 twice once in front of my house and the 571 00:23:55,410 --> 00:23:53,470 other time while I was driving to one of 572 00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:55,420 my talks in Denver most of that the 573 00:24:00,150 --> 00:23:57,910 bullet hole windshield Wow so can we 574 00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:00,160 move on and talk about your book and 575 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:01,750 then after that I want to talk a little 576 00:24:06,650 --> 00:24:03,970 bit about the latest developments of 577 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:06,660 what's happening with you sure sure 578 00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:12,130 my first book messages is I became an 579 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:14,020 international best-selling author with 580 00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:15,970 my first book messages and I wrote 581 00:24:20,790 --> 00:24:18,070 another book called answers my first 582 00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:20,800 book I talked about you know what 583 00:24:28,170 --> 00:24:24,270 happened in chronological order in my 584 00:24:29,670 --> 00:24:28,180 second book answers you know I talked 585 00:24:30,909 --> 00:24:29,680 about what I've won and didn't what I 586 00:24:33,310 --> 00:24:30,919 believe is happening 587 00:24:37,379 --> 00:24:33,320 what you know I'm learning from my 588 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:37,389 experience my experiences and it's 589 00:24:43,950 --> 00:24:41,929 there's so much more there's so much 590 00:24:46,779 --> 00:24:43,960 more involved and people could even 591 00:24:48,430 --> 00:24:46,789 remotely imagine you know I had to come 592 00:24:50,889 --> 00:24:48,440 to terms with the fact that UFOs were 593 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:50,899 real then I had to come to terms with 594 00:24:54,999 --> 00:24:52,609 the fact that something's driving the 595 00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:55,009 UFOs then I had to come to terms with 596 00:25:01,239 --> 00:24:56,539 the fact that there's multiple things 597 00:25:03,659 --> 00:25:01,249 out there some are you know like us some 598 00:25:07,690 --> 00:25:03,669 are different some are multi-dimensional 599 00:25:09,970 --> 00:25:07,700 and then you know to come to terms with 600 00:25:12,729 --> 00:25:09,980 the fact that humans are they don't 601 00:25:15,849 --> 00:25:12,739 understand who they are they don't know 602 00:25:18,460 --> 00:25:15,859 the amazing ability they have and this 603 00:25:20,109 --> 00:25:18,470 is coming from you know people high up 604 00:25:21,489 --> 00:25:20,119 in the military are coming forward about 605 00:25:25,210 --> 00:25:21,499 this stuff you know some of the people 606 00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:25,220 involved in my case are one researcher 607 00:25:29,649 --> 00:25:26,840 involved in my case is ex Naval 608 00:25:31,749 --> 00:25:29,659 Intelligence another one is X NSA and 609 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:31,759 they filter this information to me and I 610 00:25:37,539 --> 00:25:34,460 share it to the public and it's amazing 611 00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:37,549 it really is amazing and I kind of feel 612 00:25:41,710 --> 00:25:39,769 sorry for the people that don't believe 613 00:25:43,570 --> 00:25:41,720 because they're kind of stuck in this 614 00:25:45,070 --> 00:25:43,580 little box and I get to be outside of 615 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:45,080 the box looking at all this amazing 616 00:25:51,489 --> 00:25:48,289 stuff mm-hmm and what's it what's your 617 00:25:54,419 --> 00:25:51,499 the latest book is it answers it's 618 00:25:58,599 --> 00:25:54,429 called answers mm-hmm and it's my wife 619 00:26:01,149 --> 00:25:58,609 I'm sorry is that out now it is out now 620 00:26:03,310 --> 00:26:01,159 you bet and my wife also read a book 621 00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:03,320 from my side of the bed what it's like 622 00:26:10,419 --> 00:26:07,309 to be married to an abductee a Trebek D 623 00:26:12,460 --> 00:26:10,429 and you know because people there are 624 00:26:15,820 --> 00:26:12,470 people that you know they lose their 625 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:15,830 marriages over this stuff yeah family 626 00:26:19,149 --> 00:26:17,330 members won't talk to other family 627 00:26:24,669 --> 00:26:19,159 members because of this stuff now has 628 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:24,679 that happen to you at all oh you bet you 629 00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,210 bet I mean 630 00:26:31,630 --> 00:26:28,400 there are family members that just think 631 00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:31,640 I'm a nut job and then I found out 632 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:34,760 recently that my sister and my brother 633 00:26:42,370 --> 00:26:38,690 had experiences early so it seems to be 634 00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:42,380 in you know it seems to be kept in the 635 00:26:47,770 --> 00:26:44,180 family and then I recently found out 636 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:47,780 there is a major major connection with 637 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:51,050 the military my father was involved in 638 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:54,010 an incident in Minot North Dakota in 639 00:26:59,710 --> 00:26:56,450 1968 as five years old at the time 640 00:27:02,140 --> 00:26:59,720 is this a water-powered oh yeah yeah 641 00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:02,150 yeah or UFO actually came down andand 642 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:03,980 one of the missiles and then they 643 00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:07,850 attracted to oh you know a small town in 644 00:27:12,850 --> 00:27:09,260 North of North Dakota where it's hovered 645 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:12,860 above the water tower yeah now hot 646 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:14,990 things happen all the time and there's 647 00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,850 people around you all the time when 648 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:18,880 these things happen 649 00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:22,610 yeah and you mentioned when we talked 650 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:25,550 briefly before the recording that some 651 00:27:31,030 --> 00:27:27,290 things happen recently can you talk 652 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:31,040 about that I can't tell you exactly who 653 00:27:36,250 --> 00:27:34,610 because they're doing a TV show and they 654 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:36,260 don't want people to know about it that 655 00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:38,690 there was a TV crew here not one of 656 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:41,110 these UFO crews this is a very 657 00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:45,410 prestigious television organization I 658 00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:46,870 guess for lack of a better description 659 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:51,350 was here to do a story about me and that 660 00:27:54,820 --> 00:27:52,910 a film crew here and they had me hooked 661 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:54,830 up to all this you know all this video 662 00:27:59,320 --> 00:27:57,770 equipment and stuff and they captured 663 00:28:01,600 --> 00:27:59,330 all kinds of crazy stuff when they were 664 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:01,610 here I mean literally from fist sized 665 00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:03,710 balls balls of light flying through our 666 00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:06,710 trees to you know weird stuff on their 667 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:10,220 thermal-imaging camera too we had an 668 00:28:15,670 --> 00:28:12,410 incident where we were outside in this 669 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:15,680 unmarked helicopter kept flying over us 670 00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:17,330 from really really low must have 671 00:28:20,980 --> 00:28:19,340 happened about 10 times eventually 672 00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:20,990 towards the end of it 673 00:28:26,050 --> 00:28:23,360 this guy was just hovering literally 674 00:28:28,690 --> 00:28:26,060 just across the street about the house 675 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:28,700 across the street watching us and then 676 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:31,130 all the power went out in the 677 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:34,640 neighborhood and we got a call on my 678 00:28:37,780 --> 00:28:35,210 cell phone 679 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:37,790 sometimes your powers out right and I 680 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:39,170 said yes who is this and they said it 681 00:28:42,130 --> 00:28:39,830 wasn't by 682 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:42,140 to them and then they hung up and this 683 00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:45,559 this television group that was there for 684 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:48,559 me captured at all Wow well that's me 685 00:28:52,060 --> 00:28:50,510 speaking of neighbors you live in you 686 00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:52,070 live in a regular neighborhood right I 687 00:28:59,230 --> 00:28:56,840 do I do and in fact you know there's 688 00:29:02,169 --> 00:28:59,240 sometimes there's spillover our neighbor 689 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:02,179 is a very devout Christians sweetest 690 00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:04,730 sweetest couple you know they have three 691 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:08,860 kids she was out playing your dog out 692 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:11,330 one evening about 11 o'clock at night 693 00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:14,320 and they have motion activated 694 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:17,929 spotlights in their backyard well she 695 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:19,730 let her dog on the spot light came on 696 00:29:25,149 --> 00:29:23,090 and it shined to the back fence the 697 00:29:27,220 --> 00:29:25,159 fence between our yard and her yard and 698 00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:27,230 something was climbing up on the fence 699 00:29:33,009 --> 00:29:30,559 and looking at her it scared her so bad 700 00:29:36,730 --> 00:29:33,019 she went inside anyone come out of her 701 00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:36,740 house for like days and eventually she 702 00:29:40,690 --> 00:29:38,990 came and told us about it and that's one 703 00:29:42,970 --> 00:29:40,700 of the reasons the TV crew is there to 704 00:29:45,549 --> 00:29:42,980 you know Wow talk to her about what 705 00:29:49,090 --> 00:29:45,559 happened yeah now I heard you mention 706 00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:49,100 earlier interdimensional what are you 707 00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:51,260 sure what is your thoughts on that I I 708 00:29:55,930 --> 00:29:53,919 know you've you know we've talked about 709 00:30:00,430 --> 00:29:55,940 extraterrestrial but what do you think 710 00:30:02,289 --> 00:30:00,440 about the interdimensional idea it's 711 00:30:05,070 --> 00:30:02,299 come to my attention and this is what 712 00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:05,080 I'm being told by these you know 713 00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:07,460 experiment officials and even the 714 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:10,519 Vatican talked about this there are 715 00:30:15,340 --> 00:30:13,370 multiple things out there there are good 716 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:15,350 and bad things out there just like there 717 00:30:18,820 --> 00:30:17,210 are here there are things that are so 718 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:18,830 advanced they don't really even have 719 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:22,490 physical forms now we don't understand 720 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:25,010 time and we don't understand dimensions 721 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:28,370 because we think linearly you know we 722 00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,010 talk linearly we it's word after word 723 00:30:35,169 --> 00:30:33,440 it's kind of slowing archaic so it's 724 00:30:37,629 --> 00:30:35,179 kind of hard for us to understand like 725 00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:37,639 fourth or fifth dimensions and what I 726 00:30:40,509 --> 00:30:38,960 understand they call them densities 727 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:40,519 don't they don't really clone dimensions 728 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:44,690 we call them to mentions and so you know 729 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:48,080 I was told that there are many things 730 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:49,130 out there 731 00:30:56,110 --> 00:30:52,490 that are not even in this density or 732 00:31:00,670 --> 00:30:56,120 this dimension and in fact what really 733 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:00,680 kind of amazed me in misses from fairly 734 00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:02,510 high up and they just recently got some 735 00:31:08,050 --> 00:31:05,840 footage some pictures taken that were 736 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:08,060 taken of the actual Roswell crash I'm 737 00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:09,770 not sure anybody has this maybe they do 738 00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:13,630 but I just recently sent this that the 739 00:31:18,670 --> 00:31:15,670 creatures that crashed in Roswell 740 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:18,680 weren't actually aiming at all they were 741 00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:20,930 from the future from like fifty two 742 00:31:25,540 --> 00:31:22,760 thousand thirty two thousand years into 743 00:31:28,210 --> 00:31:25,550 the future they looked a lot different 744 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:28,220 but they were actually time travelers is 745 00:31:33,610 --> 00:31:30,770 that really what happened I can 100% 746 00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:33,620 prove that that's what happened but it 747 00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:36,500 is interesting that ever it is so we 748 00:31:41,770 --> 00:31:37,790 turn out pretty ugly as what you're 749 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:41,780 seeing well supposedly what happened and 750 00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:43,760 really and this is in my book answers 751 00:31:50,410 --> 00:31:46,430 what's going on is there's a timeline 752 00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:50,420 war what what happened with the Roswell 753 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:54,080 crash is some technology was recovered 754 00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:55,760 and turned into something called the 755 00:32:01,120 --> 00:31:58,850 looking glass technology and this 756 00:32:03,970 --> 00:32:01,130 looking glass was a way to look into the 757 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:03,980 future now there's a lot of 758 00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:05,570 whistleblowers that have come forward 759 00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:07,760 regarding this so I believe this is true 760 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:11,480 this is what I've been told and because 761 00:32:16,510 --> 00:32:13,910 this technology was back engineered and 762 00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:16,520 given to the wealthy elite to stay you 763 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:17,990 know so they can stay wealthy until the 764 00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:20,710 future it stood up our timeline and 765 00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:22,670 supposedly there was supposed to be a 766 00:32:29,290 --> 00:32:26,480 catastrophe in like 2010 that would have 767 00:32:31,330 --> 00:32:29,300 wiped out mostly human population and we 768 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:31,340 were supposed to go underground and 769 00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:35,210 become this this type of grey or this 770 00:32:42,790 --> 00:32:39,710 type of EPE whatever that came back to 771 00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:42,800 visit us and now this et that came back 772 00:32:47,410 --> 00:32:45,470 to visit us at crashed in Roswell tried 773 00:32:50,260 --> 00:32:47,420 to warn us from what I understand tried 774 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:50,270 to warn us about this catastrophic event 775 00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:51,710 that was going to take place and not to 776 00:32:56,890 --> 00:32:53,630 mess with the you know with this Looking 777 00:33:00,260 --> 00:32:56,900 Glass device the trouble is there crash 778 00:33:03,049 --> 00:33:00,270 cause best glass device 779 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:03,059 so and that's what I write about in my 780 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:05,340 book and there is so much evidence to 781 00:33:09,410 --> 00:33:07,110 this that it's unbelievable 782 00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:09,420 choice you know people are gonna have a 783 00:33:15,130 --> 00:33:12,900 hard time with it because you know most 784 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:15,140 of people and if they were like myself 785 00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:17,550 you have this idea of what reality is 786 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:20,550 and you go through your daily life going 787 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:22,110 to work coming back watching TV and 788 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:23,490 that's what you do you don't want 789 00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:26,250 anything to upset that reality and I you 790 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,710 know I talk about you know the fact that 791 00:33:32,150 --> 00:33:30,720 there are two oddities there's the one 792 00:33:35,210 --> 00:33:32,160 that we perceive and the one that were 793 00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:35,220 taught and then the true reality and the 794 00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:36,870 one that we were taught on that report 795 00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:40,559 we were perceived we will guard and you 796 00:33:47,030 --> 00:33:43,320 know like crazy because it's frightening 797 00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:47,040 to think of anything else well the basis 798 00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:49,140 of religions are you know is very 799 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:51,540 similar in a lot of ways any any strong 800 00:33:57,410 --> 00:33:54,570 tradition is protected exactly mm-hmm 801 00:33:59,930 --> 00:33:57,420 and you know I I was Christian I gotta 802 00:34:03,410 --> 00:33:59,940 tell you I was a Christian and one of 803 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:03,420 the things that one of the things that 804 00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:06,720 changed my paradigm a little bit was I 805 00:34:11,659 --> 00:34:09,780 went when this all started I really have 806 00:34:14,540 --> 00:34:11,669 heard timeless when I went to my V Innis 807 00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,550 turn my pastor and I said look this is 808 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,320 what happened to me he got so freaked 809 00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:18,720 out he kicked me out of the church and 810 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:20,700 he said I don't want you around the 811 00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:22,129 parishioners because I don't want you 812 00:34:27,409 --> 00:34:24,780 Satan than you basically is what he said 813 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:27,419 and I was so heartbroken and I started 814 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:30,210 realizing this guy was a hypocrite so I 815 00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:32,570 did some research and found out about 816 00:34:36,770 --> 00:34:34,740 Christianity and about that Council of 817 00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:36,780 Nicaea and how Christianity was really 818 00:34:41,090 --> 00:34:39,480 started by in for Constantine and bla 819 00:34:43,340 --> 00:34:41,100 bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla and then 820 00:34:46,010 --> 00:34:43,350 you know then I just started learning 821 00:34:47,659 --> 00:34:46,020 and I always tell people look it's okay 822 00:34:48,919 --> 00:34:47,669 if you don't believe me I mean there's 823 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:48,929 some things that I go through that I 824 00:34:52,940 --> 00:34:50,970 don't believe but before you say 825 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:52,950 anything do some research don't you 826 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:54,450 blurt it out because number one it makes 827 00:34:59,540 --> 00:34:55,679 you look like an idiot 828 00:35:02,000 --> 00:34:59,550 number two you got it don't be afraid of 829 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:02,010 the truth because the truth will set you 830 00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:02,930 free 831 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:05,640 now you said earlier that something 832 00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:07,770 about pictures of the Roswell crash is 833 00:35:13,070 --> 00:35:10,560 this this is as far as I know that's 834 00:35:13,790 --> 00:35:13,080 unheard of is this some no I've got 835 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:13,800 pictures of 836 00:35:18,170 --> 00:35:16,770 actual wreckage that you would have the 837 00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,180 only at least that's what they told me 838 00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:20,400 you know you know I validated this 839 00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:22,500 person and then live in Roswell and they 840 00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:25,470 were friends with whatever that guy's 841 00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:28,740 name is well these would probably be 842 00:35:34,850 --> 00:35:30,870 some of the most important pictures that 843 00:35:36,770 --> 00:35:34,860 have ever surfaced them do you ever want 844 00:35:38,030 --> 00:35:36,780 are they actually gonna be I can't tell 845 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:38,040 you if they're real or not they look 846 00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:39,810 really you can they're not very good 847 00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:43,350 quality and I'm going to be speaking not 848 00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:46,470 speaking but I'm going to be at the UFO 849 00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:49,440 Congress conference coming up next week 850 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:52,260 from the 22nd through the 26th on 851 00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:55,890 Arizona right yeah in Arizona and she's 852 00:36:00,020 --> 00:35:57,390 supposed to meet me up there 853 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:00,030 to show me the actual picture picture 854 00:36:04,220 --> 00:36:02,490 she tried to scan them and send them to 855 00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:04,230 me she's like the granddaughter of one 856 00:36:07,780 --> 00:36:05,940 of the people that this happened you 857 00:36:10,730 --> 00:36:07,790 know that was there when it happened so 858 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,740 then you know the incident with my not 859 00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:12,240 with the missile arming and my not 860 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:14,700 there's a general that recently passed 861 00:36:18,110 --> 00:36:16,530 away and I'm not obligated to tell you 862 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:18,120 who he is because I told his son I 863 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:20,940 wouldn't but they just sent me a 22 864 00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:24,210 top-secret documents about UFOs landing 865 00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:26,070 on the base and you know arming the 866 00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:29,340 missiles and harassing you know b-52 867 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:31,590 bombers well this has all been very 868 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:35,490 interesting Stan your website can you go 869 00:37:05,330 --> 00:37:03,290 www.antakungfu.com get them on Kindle as 870 00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:05,340 far as I know you can get them in Barnes 871 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:08,280 & Nobles definitely get them on Amazon 872 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:10,890 and then my first book message is the 873 00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:12,810 one that started it all you can get 874 00:37:17,660 --> 00:37:14,670 anywhere it's all over the world now 875 00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:17,670 great well you've been fantastic thank 876 00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:19,190 you so much for talking with us today